Re: Re: Kim Ki-duk's 3-IRON
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Originally posted by oscar jubis
Your review is 100 % positive. I'd be curious to know about any flaws you found or if none, its limitations. In other words, given your review's content, why is the grade not A or A+?
I’m glad you asked, because your question now provides me an opportunity to expound upon the system I’ve employed this year.
First of all, this isn’t something I’m fooling around with. I think about a film for quite a while before adding a letter grade, even when my comments teeter around extreme sarcasm. 3-Iron is a good example to go further into this, however, it’s not a perfect one.
It may end up being unfair at times, but to me a grade doesn’t just reflect upon the film at hand. It's also relative to all the films that I've seen. So far, the highest grade I’ve given is an "A-," and that has only been awarded to 3 films: 3-Iron, Crash, and My Mother's Smile. Does that mean these films aren't perfect? Not necessarily, but rather they aren’t as good as films that deserve the highest of honors (I don't consider them "masterpieces"). If I keep giving every film I like, or even love, an "A" or an "A+," then where would I place a film that I think comes close to Sunrise, L’Avventura, Tokyo Story, Apocalypse Now, Pixote, Rosetta etc. As we know, these don’t come around very often, but when they do, I’d prefer to have some gap between them and the others. There might be a genre film which I love, but it may not get higher then a "B." I intend to offset any confusion by not simply offering a grade of "B" as a lesser grade, but only use it when the films are truly worthy of it. The median grade between "A+" and "F" is "C+," and I’ve tried to work around it. I certainly need to get used to it, and I hope others will also.
In my comments regarding 3-Iron, I probably could’ve added that this film is a lateral move for Kim. But that sounds a bit negative, doesn’t it? And if I did, then it would've required me to go further back into his oeuvre, and that’s something I'd prefer not to do at this point since most aren’t familiar with his work.
I'm sure I would do a better job explicating myself at another time, but hopefully this provides some groundwork for where I'm coming from and what I'm trying to do.
Re: Re: Here is my review
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I'm perplexed. Certainly doing house chores like washing clothes by hand no es muy macho
Just his look and his swagger and his aggressiveness gave me this feeling of macho, perhaps not.
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Absolutely, and uncontestably, in my opinion, a lesser film than Tsai's.
Yes, it's kind of a rip off. As a user pointed out on IMdb, in Vive L'Amour the silence emerges naturally from the loneliness of the characters. In 3-Iron, it feels like a gimmick.
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You're not the only one to think so (Scott Foundas called it "Buddhism-for-dummies") but, perhaps because I'm not spiritually-inclined, I didn't hear the "shout". Can you enlighten me?
Oh it just has this air about it and since total silence is not an everyday occurrence in the movies (except for the silent films), it seemed as if the director was trying to make it say something profound. It just seemed to be saying "look at me. how spiritual I am" and of course the other objections I cited in my review.