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Rob Ford is an absolute disgrace.
I voted for that guy. What an error in judgment....
I voted for him because I thought he was real, a real guy, a rarity in the Conservative ranks.
But it didn't take long for the real Rob Ford to emerge: a drunk crack addict who likes to grope and sexually harrass women in his office.
You know, you think you have a handle on what's going on and then shit goes down that makes you look like you weren't behind the 8-Ball......
It SUX.
Rob Ford has to go. You can't be a Mayor of a city as large and Globally important as Toronto and smoke crack as soon as the work days' done....
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I think it's time for me to start believing completely in Carl Jung's Abraxas.
I need to find comfort in equal measure in Good and Evil.
The imbalance is killing me.
LOL
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They mentioned on KPFA the Washington DC mayor, Marion Berry, who got caught smoking crack, did time, and then came back and got reelected. Know his story? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry
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Well, Marion Barry's name was trotted out as soon as the crack scandal broke. "Rob Ford! Smoked Crack! Just like Marion Barry!"
Is it the same? This is 2013. Barry's crack scandal happened in 1990. Is there a difference?
I've heard everything from "Lawyers and Doctors smoke crack and they function normally!" to "Is smoking crack that bad? Rob Ford forms complete sentences, so he can't be that much of a crack addict!"
Right.
Lamar Odom forms complete sentences.
Charlie Sheen forms complete sentences.
Charlie even memorizes lines. LOL
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Mike Duffy (and his lawyer) are UNLOADING the big trail of e-mails that will bring down Harper's joke government:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/mike-duffy-...023838758.html
Thanks Mike!
You're not my Hero, but thanks for bringing down the worst government in Canadian history!
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Canadians are starting to ask themselves: Is there a precedent for arresting a sitting Prime Minister?
The answer is NO.
We have never been in this situation in our nation's 146-year history.
We have never had crime and corruption (exposed) like this in our halls of power before.
Harper and Nigel Wright and all the Tory lickspittles didn't think for a minute that they would be brought down by one of their own- an UNELECTED one of their own.
Harper ran for office on Senate reform long ago. And now he is facing extermination by a Senator HE appointed.
This is what happens when you indulge lobbyists, who, I might add have infested our House of Commons public galleries.
I have been told a new practice has entered Parliament: you will be asked to leave the public galleries by HOC Security because lobbyists have petitioned their MP's for reserved seating in the public galleries. THEY RESERVE THE WHOLE GALLERY! To lobby the government!
THE PUBLIC SOUL OF CANADA HAS BEEN ERASED BY STEPHEN HARPER.
You won't get it back until you send him to prison.
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Let's Be Clear: (to quote Harper, LOL):
It's Time to HEAVE STEVE!
And here's a message to the RCMP: Canadians are watching to see whose backs you have: OURS, or the PMO.
We suspect Harper's corruption may stretch right into the RCMP.
Please prove us dead wrong.
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I didn't realize Canada as a nation was officially only 146 years old; I had to look it up. Of course you're right; it's complicated, though...
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Yes. Officially a Nation in 1867. But very complicated to get to that point...
I watched Question Period yesterday, and Harper still refuses to answer any straight questions on who knew what and when in his own office about the deal with Mike Duffy to pay back his expenses. NDP Offical Opposition Leader Tom Mulcair fileted Harper like a fish, nailing him question after question, usually ending with a final "YES OR NO?" demand for an answer, which Harper refused to do at every turn.
Mulcair each time said "Canadians are noting that the Prime Minister is not answering the question".
Harper at one point said that Mulcair was "casting aspersions" about who was involved in the Duffy deal.
To which Mulcair incinerated Harper: "Only a Conservative would find looking for the truth as "CASTING ASPERSIONS"
Boo-Yah Ke-shah!
I even heard My Man Charlie Angus shout out to Harper when he stood up: WALK AN HONEST ROAD FOR ONCE!!!!!
It fell on deaf ears.
I also heard Defence Minister Rob Nicholson tell a whopper of a lie in the House when he stood up and said Harper's joke government has done more for Veterans than any other government. What a serious crock of horseshit. The Tories are closing every single Veterans Affairs support office!
In fact, in Sydney Nova Scotia this weekend there is huge rally and march and protest at the closing of their support office.
I can't remember what NDP MP it was, but he stood up and THUNDERED at the Tories:
"AN NDP GOVERNMENT WILL MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE OFFICES ARE RE-OPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
To huge applause, from the floor and from the galleries.
Harper is balancing his books on the backs of our Heroes.
Make no mistake: Harper's government is Fucked.
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They cling to their bad behavior and false claims with bloody claws. Bad politician behavior is very like addict behavior, which the Toronto mayor's simply is.
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Ain't that the ironclad truth.
Rob Ford is just a huge bag of hammers.
Finance Minister Jim "THE FLEECER" Flaherty is a long-time family friend of the Ford's, and he was crying on TV yesterday about Ford.
Literally getting misty-eyed over his fat friend's tragic political demise.
Or was it his own governments' tragic political demise? It's hard to know. Tories are so secretive...
Ford's mother and sister went on TV yesterday, saying that "Robbie was attacked. He's not an addict" and on and on...
Tell your fat disgrace of a brother/son that what he has done for Toronto is drag it's reputation through a sick pigsty!
And he wants forgiveness?
Gimme a fucking break!
You don't become Mayor and behave like this idiot has behaved!
Sweet Jesus, we need to rid the earth of Conservative scum.
You never hear of scandals like this from any other party. ONLY TORIES.
Time to tell them to fuck off forever.
Enough is Enough dammit.
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Ford is a disgusting fat messy slob. I wouldn't want him as mayor of my big city even if he was a teetotaler.
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:D
I know. Hindsight is 20/20. I can't believe I voted for him in 2010.
I'm utterly ashamed I voted for a Tory. NEVER again. For some reason I thought Ford was "real".
City Council is petitioning the Ontario provincial government to take unprecedented action and remove Ford from office and order him to get help.
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By the way, PMW, if you're still reading this massive thread at all, you can lock this thread as soon as Harper is gone.
I want this thread over more than anyone who reads it. TRUST ME.
But given how long it takes to get Justice, I'd say we have at least 6 months before the actual hammer comes down.
It's all dependent on the RCMP.
If they want to restore Canadians' faith in such a flawed institution, I can't think of a more ripe moment.
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Something else I'd like to highlight about this DEATH OF HARPER'S GOVERNMENT situation we are witnessing:
Many people have come out in defence of Nigel Wright, Harper's former Chief-of-Staff.
They say he's a highly ethical man, he is beyond reproach, he is a saint. Impeccable Dude, Dude...get with it....blah blah blah.
All these "defenders of the faith" (pardon me Judas Priest- I mean no harm, Metal Gods!) forget one crucial thing:
Nigel reached into his own bank account to pay Duffy off.
How would he do that on his own? Why would he do that on his own?
How did that idea ever even enter his head?
How did he not know how it would look?
And if he did, I want him to say under oath that his job as Chief-of-Staff was always on the chopping block. That it's dirty politics, and everybody under the sun knows that the COS is expendable. Canadians need to know this for the future.
WHO LET IT LEAK OUT THAT A CHECK WAS CUT? That's the question.
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With this situation forcing me to look into the future, into Canada's political future, I have to say that it looks alarmingly like Harper not only couldn't care less about the Senate scandal, but he also couldn't care less if he wins the next election.
It seems incredible to say that, but I know Stephen Harper better than you do. I've been watching him a lot longer than you.
I wonder if his Tory caucus realizes that their time in the sun may be over, and that it's 100% their Leader's fault.
Those 24 new seats gained by his caucus...I wonder what those MP's think of the current situation.
How about it Tory MP's? You giving any thought to the fact that this is one storm that your party will not weather?
YOU SHOULD. Harper is so politically selfish he has no qualms losing the next election.
Maybe he can be an advisor to the party after you are trounced. LOL
Will you still love him after scandal?
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Maybe like Berlusconi? He never seems to go away. But Harper isn't a billionaire, is he? They're all rich though, aren't they? That's part of being a politician.
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Good comparison. Harper is pretty much the same as Berlusconi.
And yes, Harper is a Billionaire. Being PM helped him fill his coffers to the hilt.
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It goes with the way the whole world is becoming more and more an oligarchy of the rich. I think it's actually called plutocracy. But American presidents have mostly been rich. According to an accounting I just checked, only about a quarter of them have been worth less than a million. Washington was mega-rich, though not a billionaire. On the other hand some early ones went bankrupt. Lincoln lost everything when young, Wilson wasn't rich, and Truman was "relatively poor" most of his life. He and his wife needed Medicare. http://www.businessinsider.com/ameri...247-wall-st-45
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Great information.
The tarsands is the whole reason Harper is in power. He has made his fortune off the tarsands. Canadians aren't aware of it.
In Question Period last Thursday the Harper government was hammering in the House about how the Keystone pipeline and the tarsands development cannot be slowed down because of environmental assesments.
Harper at one time said Keystone was "a no-brainer", then he said "I will not take no for an answer!"
Well, Obama gave him a clear "NO". Based entirely on the fact that the environmental concerns were not met.
The Opposition asked (quite rightly) how wise is it to give Ultamatums to our biggest trading partner.
Some Tory backbench mouthpiece said it shows Harper is a strong leader.
Right.
The Environment has no chance under Harper- he gutted all environmental protection in his GIANT Omnibus bill.
Do Canadians remember that fiasco (not so long ago?)
NOPE.
They don't give a shit.
Just like Harper.
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Re: Looking into Canada's political future
I will vote NDP for the rest of my life. It's no secret here. I've said it more than once.
But I know how huge a threat to the PMO Justin Trudeau is.
I feel Tom Mulcair has more than proved his worth as a Prime Ministerial candidate.
He has done nothing but shine in my eyes. Same with the NDP caucus- Nathan Cullen, Charlie Angus, Peggy Nash and all the rest- just amazing jobs they've been doing holding this government to account.
It hurts to know what I know sometimes, because even though the NDP deserve to govern more than any other party, I know more than most how much Canadians think only in terms of Red and Blue politically. In most Canadians' minds there are only Tories and Grits- No "Orange Crush" on their radar. And that hurts to say.
Couple that with Justin Trudeau being center stage, and we have a serious problem.
His name resonates with older Canadians in a way that no other politico's does.
They know his old man, and they know that the Trudeau name means "Intellect".
I wouldn't mind seeing a Trudeau government, but not until the NDP have had a chance to show what they're made of.
Liberal scandals (in the past) have been just as shocking as the current Tory ones.
I'd hate to have the reins handed over to trudeau and then scandals continue to rain down....
An NDP government would have ZERO scandals, at least for one year. (LOL)
They would establish themselves pretty quickly as efficient managers and would do everything in their (elected) power to make sure they never find themselves in the same politically doomed situation as these fucking Cons.
We'll see how things shape up for the 2015 election.
Canadian politics is gonna get INTERESTING, YO.
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You know why Harper is 1000% guilty and complicit in this monstrous coverup and fraud in his own PMO?
Because he never once stood up in the House of Commons and shouted with outrage that this happened on his watch, and that he will never EVER let this kind of thing happen again. He would put heads on PIKES for this outrage. For this affront to the taxpayers.
But no. He denied everything and hopes everything goes away.
Only one thing is going away, you stupid stupid man.
And that is you. You and your joke Tory party can get out of my country.
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Again the addiction model = denial. "I have no problem." "I'm doing nothing wrong."
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Bingo.
Harper is the biggest addict on the Hill. Next to Pierre Poilievre, of course.
To quote Ice Cube: "I make the Motherf***er drink the Kool-Aid!"
Do You?
Do You?
Know who you're fuckin' with?
Always.
Always.
Know who you're fuckin' with.
Know who you're fuckin' with.
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Jim "THE FLEECER" Flaherty is telling Canadians that the country will return to a surplus in 2015-16.
Here are two "Letters to the Editor" of the Globe and Mail from today, reprinted in their entirety:
ALTERNATE REALITY
Re: Flaherty's $3.7 Billion Surprise (Nov. 13/2013)
Flaherty's economic statement, the one he's so proud of, might well have read like this:
"I'd like to tell my fellow Canadians that, by 2015, we expect that we will finally have balanced our budget after a tortuous 7 years of spending more than we took in.
We chose this tack- of cutting sources of revenue, including the GST and corporate taxes, and dishing out for hockey gear- because we listened to what Canadians want. You should be proud of your achievement.
The surplus we expect to see should just about cover the interest on the $145 Billion or so we've added to the debt on behalf of the public since we came to office. We had to do a little *Nudge Nudge* stimulus spending. But, Hey, it was worth it.
A truly Canadian effort.
We consider the debt a sacred trust- the Harper debt- and so what if it will never be paid back? WE'RE GOOD FOR IT."
- Patrick Stewart, Newport, N.S.
The same government that "misplaced" $3.1 Billion says it is able to forecast a $3.7 Billion surplus 20 months into the future.
This takes spin to an all-new level.
- Armin Weber, Thornhill, Ont.
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Just to be 100% Clear, Canada's National Debt (accumulated over 7 years Harper has been in power) is:
almost $690, 000, 000, 000. That's Six-Hundred and Ninety Billion Dollars.
Drink the Kool-Aid if you think Harper is all about the economy.
Drink the Kool-Aid if you think Harper is a sound fiscal manager.
Drink the Kool-Aid and then shoot yourself in the face if you think Harper rocks.
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I've left out all kinds of damning evidence against Harper on this Senate scandal, by the way.
This thread is now at 34 pages- every post directly re-inforces how DELUSIONAL our PM is.
I'm trying not to overfill the trunk on this, but it's almost impossible.
Chris Woodcock (who is still on the taxpayers' payroll and still on Harper's team) was named in Duffy's e-mails as one of the Conservative staffers who will concoct "the script" for Duffy to tell the media.
Woodcock is described as a "Communications Specialist" LOL, and he was gonna "communicate" to the Canadian people "the truth" LOL.
Will someone bring the hammer down on this pathetic Conservative government?
Today?
Right now?
This second?
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Re: Rob Ford "The Absolute Tory Disgrace":
This is a letter from todays' Ottawa citizen, a letter from a veteran named Bill Carr, a retired lieutenant-colonel:
"We recently paid our annual homage to those who in peace and war have added much lustre to the envied image of this unmatched Nation.
This year, though, Canada's image has been tarnished by the behavior of a number of senators and an out-of-control mayor of our largest city.
While the dishonesty of those red chamber miscreants has been *partially* redressed, this disgusting behavior of the mayor of Toronto continues to degrade our international and national reputation.
We Veterans, as liberal (and old) as many of us are, cannot accept as the "Canadian Way", what we are seeing.
Reforming or abolishing the senate won't get rid of crooks, any more than imprisoning dope users will, but perhaps self-analysis by those in power might, were they to devote their energies to the National Good, not to personal political goals.
That's what our veterans did."
Amen.
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Soon Rob Ford will be stripped of his powers as mayor of Toronto.
City Council will hold a vote this week to make Ford mayor in name only.
Ford is still in denial, still defiant, and he says the voters will decide in the next election.
They sure will, you fat clown.
They. Sure. Will.
Would you believe Ford now has his own reality show on SUN TV? It's called "Ford Nation" and it starts tomorrow night.
Is this shit happening here in Toronto?
For real?
This is SERIOUS?
No joke?
WoW.
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Jim "The FLEECER" Flaherty's best buddy, Rob Ford, announced that he "Will continue to fight for the little guy"
Right.
Just as someone wrote on a CBC comments section on Ford:
"Fighting for the little guy?? Would that be between hits of crack and vodka shooters?!?!"
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Close quotes after "vodka shooterrs" -- I don't think anybody said "holy fuck" on CBC.
I'm glad you're getting rod of Ford. But I don't know if Canada's rep is down the tubes here in the US because I don't know if anyone's really aware of all this. A NY Times article from five days ago says Ford was asked to step down "temporarily." The photo shows a bllowsy redfaced man who if you saw him on the street would seem like a drunk or a homeless person or both.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/14/wo...rily.html?_r=0
A Times piece from two days ago says the council lacks the power to remove the mayor but is stripping away all his powers and funding of staff.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/16/wo...rbs-mayor.html
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Here's a link to a National Post article where NDP Leader Tom Mulcair lays out why Harper's ties to Ford are haunting his re-election hopes for 2015.
I want any and all Conservatives lurking here to read this fucker.
THIS MEANS YOU.
And pay strict attention to the part where Harper went on a fishing trip with Ford- and then gaze longingly into that photo of Steve and Robbie shaking hands. And then contemplate just how stupid you were for voting for either one of them.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11...o-wear-it-now/
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Apparently Ford is also associated with gang members he may have used drugs with. As long as they can't or don't push him completely out, banish him forever from the city government, his addict-style denial can flourish, I suppose.
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It's unreal.
The guy simply does not get it. He just doesn't live on Planet Earth.
Stephen Harper refuses to comment on Ford.
When it's another party, he's all over it like white on rice. When it's his own criminal goof, all's well in political war.
He actually thinks Ford is still useful politically for the next election- remember Harper is all about politics for oil profits, nothing else.
ANyone with a brain knows that if Ford was in Harper's federal cabinet he would have been bounced in two seconds flat.
Drug use and ties to gangs and drug dealers would've offed Ford's head immediately.
I think the Ford family is in neck-deep in Toronto's drug trafficking trade.
What do we have to prove otherwise?
Zilch.
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Another article linked to the one you just linked to refers to "all his enablers" - once again a standard addiction term.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...ding-populism/
If Ford can be criminally prosecuted for drug trafficking that solves the problem of getting rid of him.
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We live in a Banana Republic. I said it the day after the 2011 election.
And Ford is King Banana right now.
We have to wait YEARS to get Justice on anything.
Canadians never expect to be in situations like this, with Unholy Terror Mayors and Psychopathic Prime Ministers who cannot be removed unless they are in handcuffs.
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We have great news: Nigel Wright is now OFFICIALLY under investigation by the RCMP for Bribery and Breach of Trust.
It will be awesome to see if he will fall on his sword TWICE.
Harper's got a real friend in Wright if Wright will go to jail for him.
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The facts are in, almost two years from our next election:
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau will be our next Prime Minister.
How do I know?
Because both sides are owned. They are the same people.
There will be no change of course with this government, or any government on earth.
Because the governments are chosen for us long before we "vote them in".
Think about that. For the rest of your life.
I'm saying this sober and completely sane: you are owned right down to what you think.
It's been that way for a long time. And you weren't told and never will be told.
Except by me. You're welcome.
I have nothing to lose.
Come take me out.
I'm ready for my close-up, Cowards.
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Feel free to lock this thread Peter.
It's over.
It was a nice exercise in futility, wasn't it?
:)