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    the heavens fall...

    This "time' in history is so very strange.

    How do you explain this social and political climate?
    How do you rationalize "society"?

    Hunter Thompson gave a new name to the United States:
    THE KINGDOM OF FEAR

    And bubba, you better believe it's true.


    I know it's all a state of mind for the most part but I'm sick and tired of being affected with "world events", with the "winds of change", with the concentrated B.S. that clogs our TV's, radios, computers, schools and newspapers.

    Is there no place for a man or woman to toil away in their garden, whatever that garden may be?

    Why is there so much strife, so much angst and FEAR?

    Anybody got an answer?

    The only thing I can come up with is that it's absolutely true that we have a built-in self-destruct system, ready to blow, no matter how prosperous or "good" our lives are.


    Even if you still think this foul uncertain smog which hangs over our beautiful planet is due to TERRORISM and that the world began on September 11th, you gotta admit that this world is not a friendly place.

    Never has been.
    Kindness and peace and goodwill are the REAL dangers lurking in the shadows. Those are traps, illusions.
    Come on, I mean look what happened to John Lennon.

    A mastercraftsman songwriter.
    One of the greatest musical talents to ever stroll the earth.
    A poet. I can call John Lennon a poet.
    A poet of the people.

    And the man who took this legend from us sits in Attica, where he's been for almost 100 SEASONS. 24 years, fed very well and kept toasty warm by the United States Prison System, reading the fine volumes that rest on the tall prison library shelves, all on your taxpaying nickel, while great photogs like Mr. Benson take stark black and white art photos of Mr. Chapman smiling like the collossal jerk doofus he will eternally be.

    He's kept in jail to protect us.
    He's a gunman who's a little kookoo, they say.
    He could kill again...

    Why is he treated so well?

    I have a theory.

    Chapman is an American- from Hawaii apparently.
    Lennon was a pain in Nixon's ass for a long time.
    Nixon tried to have John deported back to England.

    If you're an American, you apparently have the keys to the kingdom. Subconciously Americans have got it in their marrow that they are somehow superior to the rest of humanity.

    That's the driving force of the U.S.A.

    That supremely misguided idea that they are NUMBER 1 in EVERYTHING.

    That's how Abu-Grahaib can happen.
    That shit was textbook "American Mentality with an Army-twist"
    HA HA, subhuman Iraqis! WE OWN YOU.

    That's how John Lennon can be murdered near the stroke of midnight while his killer gets to relax in a well-monitored setting for the rest of his life.

    I wonder why he's not on death row.
    Is he?

    Shouldn't that death-date have come and gone?

    Yes it did: December 10th 1980.
    In less than 24 hrs the authorities knew who they had and what he'd done.
    Hell, minutes after the shooting, when a police cruiser arrived, Chapman was excitedly shrieking for the police not to "hurt him".

    Coward.

    It's so tragically sad that John was gunned down by a man so monumentally cowardly.






    Don't extend any graces to anybody- the person standing next to you is probably a terrorist.

    Where should my moral compass be?

    Huh?

    There is great hope, though:

    If Michael Moore has got the celluloid that I think he does,
    we might actually see Dubya impeached and thrown out on his ear like he should have been 5 years ago.



    Bring The Pain Mike.
    We're all ready to see this administration crumble.
    Destroy it with the truth buddy.

    Unload again.
    You're stronger than when you made Fahrenheit.
    What doesn't kill you...

    Do it brother. I know you will.
    Kill them with Selluloid.

    The film is mightier than the pen.

    The wrath, indeed...
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    This thread could turn out to be longer than oscar's "Longest Thread".


    Let's see what's in the news today.



    anduril and steveseitz (Mutt and Jeff are my pet names for them)
    would give me a sound verbal thrashing for getting my news from MichaelMoore.com, but guess what?

    He really reports the truth.

    He ain't spinnin' nothin'. Not a fuckin' thing.

    There's no reason to make shit up or distort- the truth is far more outrageous than anything he could make up or twist into
    "the best propaganda since Riefenstahl"

    Good one Steve: you must think you're the sharpest knife in the drawer, the keenest cat since Kafka.


    I must politely, quietly rail against your views.

    Tony Blair just got smacked by his own government for wanting to detain terror suspects for three months without laying a charge.

    The peeps said fuck you: 28 days is the max, and like it said on Moore's website: "the terror suspects had no immediate comment".

    Too much power. Too much control.
    And the ones who have this power should be nowhere near government. They are not worthy to be chairmen of leadership.

    They are psychos.
    Not all may I add- I'd hate to blanket everybody :)

    There are some supremely intelligent and compassionate people in government, but we never see or hear from them.

    They are pushed aside by the ruthless, the bullies.


    Cindy Sheehan has another new entry in her "THIS TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY" book:

    http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=533

    I love the old post anduril vomited from the Lounge "politicks" thread that said that I sounded like Osama.

    You know what?

    Osama is like Tim McVeigh (a guy who Gore Vidal wrote about):
    He hates the United States government but he took matters into his own hands, killing scores of innocent people.

    That ain't right. That don't wash.
    You die for that, bitch.
    And mcVeigh was put to death for it like he should have been.

    But he and Osama have/had very valid points!
    The points that anduril posted by Osama are bang-on.

    Don't believe me? Fucking read it! Examine what he said there!

    As Oliver Stone said: The Arabs have a point!

    I love this shit.

    I love this "war" we got now.

    It gives me so much cause and resolve, so much concentrated cynicism and hellfire of mindset.

    I feel like God sometimes.
    And sometimes I feel like the most powerless person on earth.
    But you know what?

    At least I know the score.
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    Oh yeah, and the score is


    2,110 dead soldiers

    Countless injured or maimed

    A debt that is in the billions (and grows every second)

    A President who doesn't give a shit but says he does

    A Vice-President whose SOUL is in it's last throes

    Untold numbers of Iraqis dead (they are human beings- forget about "us" and "them" for 2 fucking seconds..)


    And the complete, utter erosion of "the American Way", whatever it was...

    No freedom. You're free, but not really free...

    America is a punchline now.

    The damage seems irreparable.

    What kind of a person calling themselves a "patriot" would agree to surrender all of their rights?

    Rights that were hard won by men and women who served in
    REAL WARS FOR FUCKING FREEDOM?


    I'll be standing at Victory Square tommorrow and remembering the real warriors and freedom fighters.

    Sam Mendes is a great filmmaker, but I have to say that Jarhead has stripped all respect I had for him.

    Why did you make this Sam?

    Is this as topical as you can be?

    If you had set it in today's Iraq with your sights aimed directly at Rumsfeld and Cheney, with soldiers not knowing what the fuck they're doing, you might have made a compelling movie.

    There are elements in your film that resonate with me cinematically, but you've failed, Mr. M.

    Your damn right you can't compete with Full Metal Jacket.

    Kubrick wipes the floor with your semper fi failure of a movie.

    Buy Matthew Modine's new book: Full Metal Jacket Diary.
    It's made of metal, limited edition of 20,000 and it's the best book on the film ever to see print.

    I saw it on the shelf at Chapters and nearly wet my Levis.

    Hearing The Grand Master's M.O. on the set is what I live for.


    True film buffs miss you a lot, Stanley.
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    Merry Christmas DICK & GEORGE!

    Ho Ho





    Michael Moore has a brilliant section on the main page of his website today which highlights 237 misleading things said by
    jorge, Dickhead, Donny, Colin and Condi, the 5 merry pranksters of political FAILURE.

    It's from "Iraq on the Record", and it's a damn good read.

    Anyone supporting the war now is a sorry-ass bitch.

    Bush and Cheney pout about "cutting and running", but the truth is (as Donahue said) we're cutting and running ANYWAY.

    The States cut and ran from Vietnam out of sheer embarassment.


    This war is far beyond mere embarassment.

    www.michaelmoore.com
    It's horrifyingly shameful.
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    And please check out this VERY interesting bit of Bush-Bashing

    (actually they're just asking some key questions...)



    If you were wondering about that big bulge on George's back during the first Kerry debate...

    http://www.justabovesunset.com/id405.html
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    According to Amy Goodman on Democracy Now Bush's approval rating is 35% now. Of course we have the headline that Congress is saying, set a deadline for getting out of Iraq. He's finally in real trouble. But it's taken too long. Too many people have died.

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    In the UK it's like a repeat of the First World War, the latest news from Blair, the British troops may be pulled out of Iraq by Christmas (next year) if the Iraqi's can play like good little girls and boys.

    Still it'll give em a rest before we free Iran (from their oil supplies).

    Unfortunately Iraq stays in peoples memories about as long as the AIDS issue, unless it's front page news, it don't mean shit.

    Cheers Trev.
    The more I learn the less I know.

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    I don't know if that is quite true in America right now about Iraq. I think it's more in people's minds than ever. Maybe the movie Jarhead will make people think more about it, Bush I's war.

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    That crack in the wall is gettin' bigger...

    Check out Mike's site today:

    The White House released a statement about the man who called down Cheney and invoked the power of Michael Moore.

    Mike responded.

    Genius.

    Absolutely genius.

    Michael Moore has no fear.
    You sad, pathetic Reich-Wing puppets.


    The Kingdom is gonna fall hard, and it will be more beautiful than a sunset with your lover and a pipe full of kif.

    Kill Whitey.

    The Bush Years are coming to a sharp halt.
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    Cindy Sheehan's new letter to Barbara Bush is devastating.


    This is what that SACK 'O SHIT said on Good Morning America on March 18, 2003:


    Why should we hear about body bags and deaths?
    I mean, IT'S NOT RELEVANT.
    So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?



    This is your president's MOM, America.
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    T-Shirts for stocking stuffers, anyone?


    http://www.cafepress.com/shop/antibush
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    I like the "blind faith in bad leadership is not patriotism" one. AT the time of Gulf War I, I made my own T-shirt for the Fourth of July: "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." Samuel Johnson said that. Actually that comes from Boswell, no context given, from his Life of Johnson, dated 1775, but Ambrose Bierce wrote, “In Dr. Johnson’s famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer, I beg to submit that it is the first.” I'm afraid that when I see "Support Our Troops" "ribbons" on the backs of cars on the freeway, I want to ram them! What they mean is, Support the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. Unless they have relatives who died over there they have no right to display such stuff, and in that case they should be out supporting Cindy Sheehan, not sticking magnets on their cars.

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    Amen to that.



    The second page has a couple good ones, like

    Wake me in 2008
    (if there's anyone left alive)
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    Take another look at Jarhead, Johann

    Johann, you recently wrote:

    Sam Mendes is a great filmmaker, but I have to say that Jarhead has stripped all respect I had for him.

    Why did you make this Sam?

    Is this as topical as you can be?

    If you had set it in today's Iraq with your sights aimed directly at Rumsfeld and Cheney, with soldiers not knowing what the fuck they're doing, you might have made a compelling movie.

    There are elements in your film that resonate with me cinematically, but you've failed, Mr. M.
    I agree that the Kubrick-derivative parts are pretty poor stuff, but I believe that the last part of the movie has something unique and fresh to say to us. Please take a look at my thread on the movie and say what you have to say there, okay? I put some thought into that and I'd like some feedback.

    I don't think it's very often possible to make a fictional statement on film about the political events of the past three years that is going to have any artistic merit. You've got to have a little perspective and that's why it makes sense to make a movie about Gulf War I. As I say, though, David O. Russell's is a better and smarter movie. But it doesn't say what Mendes's does about that kind of warfare. Bellocchio just recently made a terrific movie about the Aldo Moro kidnapping, from the Seventies. Why? It was too close and too sensitive for Italians to make a dramatic movie from inside the events, from inside the kidnappers' apartment, till the past few years.

    Here's my thread on Jarhead. The last part is the most important part, if you're in a hurry:

    http://www.filmwurld.com/forums/show...&threadid=1565

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    The last part of your Jarhead review is greatness, Chris.

    Thoreau is a guy who is looking more and more appealing to me.

    As Hunter said: The only freedom people seek today is freedom from DUMBNESS.


    With regards to Jarhead, I do wanna discuss it in more depth, but I am rushed for time at the moment.



    Millions of dollars thrown on a Gulf War I film?

    Millions more will be thrown on an Iraq war film.
    Time ticks away..people are still dead.

    Jarhead comes off as blatant.

    But give me tonight to mull over the movie memories..
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