
Originally Posted by
Chris Knipp
You're right, I failed to engage with the film to the degree that you did.
Prudence's failure to feel her grief over her mother's death didn't come through to me as it did to you. How are we supposed to know that she is resisting the grief and just didn't care much about her mother? Her feelings for her mother while her mother was alive are not established. The movie begins with the scene of Prudence being a bad girl. It wasn't completely clear to me what her family situation was. Was she a rich girl who had a whole Paris flat all to herself, or was her dad only away temporarily? It wasn't completely clear. The girl she was searched with in the store for shoplifting: was she a classmate, an outside acquaintance, or somebody she'd never met before? I wasn't quite clear on that either.
From my point of view, all of these questions do not really matter in the big scheme of things. Her economic status was not relevant. As for her relationship with her mother, the final scene of the film indicated clearly to me that she had had a good relationship with her mother but had been unable to come to terms with her loss. It doesn’t matter why her father wasn’t around. Presumably he was away on business. The only thing that was germane was that she felt lost and lonely.
Her interest in the illegal bike racing and the exciting motorcyclists at Rungis: where did that come from?
Like many adolescents who are angry, she acted out her rebellion by seeking an escape through the bike racing scene. In this case, it appeared that she was angry at her mother for dying but could not confront that, so she internalized it by turning the anger inward against herself. She apparently did not have any close friends that she could turn to.
Another thing that slipped by me. when she went to the dinner at her relatives, I was not clear at first that they were relatives or that she was Jewish. Why should she have to have the meaning of basic Jewish holidays explained to her if she was Jewish? You see, a lot was not clear to me. Why doesn't she have any more proper bourgeois friends who are contemporaries, instead of inviting the bad boys and their girlfriends to come and semi-trash her apartment? Where are her usual friends and associates and activities?
Not every Jew is familiar with the reasons and purposes of the holidays especially if they do not come from a particularly religious upbringing. In my case, we did celebrate the high holy days by going to temple, but it never had much meaning to me and I never understood the reasons behind the holidays until I was an adult.
You say the movie "was a bit non-structured I agree." When I say the biker's death jolts her back to an awareness of her loss, I of course meant that it led her back to her grief. I did not understand what the phantom of her mother meant at first either. Then I realized it meant awareness of her mother's absence was finally coming through to her. At first I thought it might mean she had only been pretending that her mother was dead and that her mother had been away like her father. Yes, you could say that a whole lot of this movie was not clear to me, and the elliptical, jerky presentation augmented that confusion for me. However I liked the dark Pialat-esque mise-en-scene. I was not put off by, rather attracted by, the whole thing. It just didn't wholly work.
I understand that it didn’t work for you.
Prudence goes to Rungis in the middle of the night. This is meant to be shocking and dark, and the excitement of her adventure comes through nicely. But it's also disorienting. The way the movie goes back and forth from Prudence's home to the edgy locales she seeks out is part of the confusion. In this sense the screenplay is "rambling" and since I did not follow some key points, it is also "lacking in clarity" Actually several things you say about the plot toward the end seem possibly incorrect, so you may not have followed the action as well as you think. I refer to Franck's sex with Prudence and Prudence's encounter with Franck's mother.
I think the confusion and the disoriented nature of the presentation was meant to mirror the state of Prudence’s mind as she goes through a process of rebellion and discovery. What was it that I said about the plot toward the end seemed incorrect?
Of the people I talked to at the screening, one woman who is very perceptive said she understood exactly what Prudence was going through. Several men did not and thought the film unsuccessful. On Allociné the spectator rating is quite a bit lower than the critics' and this fits with what the Variety reviewer said, that the public would not like this movie as well as the reviewers. The critics' rating is 3.5, which is good (4.0 is a top rating) but the viewers' is 2.7. I'll see if I can talk to other people at the screening and see what they thought.
With all due respect, while I am interested in what others say about a film, everyone's in a different space and reacts differently. In the final analysis, like viewing a painting, I always go with my experience and what it means to me on a personal level.
"They must find it hard, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority" Gerald Massey
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