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    Outrage over a downgrading.

    The Academy made public plans to announce the Oscars for some key but less sensational or popular categories during commercial breaks in the TV ceremony: cinematography, editing, makeup/hair and Live Action Short. This didn't fly and has been reversed. The following is dated Feb. 16, 2019:
    The Motion Picture Academy officially reversed their plans to have four Oscars given out during commercial breaks late Friday. The categories in question were for Cinematography, Editing, Make-Up & Hairstyling, and Live Action Short. The first three categories brought out the heavyweights, such as Quentin Tarantino, Martin Scorsese, Guillermo Del Toro and many others, who declared that while all other categories were expendable, no one has ever made a movie without a camera or editing. The Hair and Make-Up crowd aired their grievances too. No one really stood up for the Live Action short, but that may only be because that category has come under much backlash itself, with Detainment, a short about the murder of a 2 year old boy, causing much controversy as the parents of the dead child demanded it be removed from the race. It wasn't.

    -B Alan Orange in TV News, reprinted in Movieweb.
    I described this year's Oscar Nominated Shorts, Live Action, Animated, and Documentary, on a separate thread, including "Detainment." The English did not want "Detainment" to be highlighted, perhaps even honored, in the Live Action category, because it focuses on one of the most disturbing crimes in their country's history, the murder of a two-year-old boy by two ten-year-olds: reportedly some 100,000 people signed a petition against the Oscar nomination (though in these days of social media and online organization, that doesn't seem like such a huge turnout against it, or wouldn't be in the US).

    Anyway, the Brits and the Academy didn't withdraw "Detainment" from awards consideration - fortunately for all concerned, it seems unlikely to win.

    Champions of the essential categories of cinematography and editing can be relieved that the honors awarded in those and the other two categories won't be hidden from public recognition. Let's mention the nominees again - and admit, I omitted the Editing category above):

    Best Cinematography
    The Favourite (Robbie Ryan)
    Never Look Away (Caleb Deschanel)
    Roma (Alfonso Cuaron)
    A Star Is Born (Matty Libatique)
    Cold War (Lukasz Zal)
    Best Film Editing
    (Vice) Hank Corwin
    (Green Book) Patrick J. Don Vito
    (BlacKkKlansman) Barry Alexander Brown
    (The Favourite) Yorgos Mavropsaridis
    Best Makeup & Hairstyling
    Border (Goran Lundstrom and Pamela Goldammer)
    Mary Queen of Scots (Jenny Shircore, Marc Pilcher and Jessica Brooks)
    Vice(Greg Cannom, Kate Biscoe and Patricia DeHaney)
    Best Live Action Short
    (Detainment) Vincent Lambe and Darren Mahon
    (Fauve) Jérémy Comte and Maria Gracia Turgeon
    (Marguerite) Marianne Farley and Marie-Hélène Panisset
    (Mother) Rodrigo Sorogoyen and María del Puy Alvarado
    (Skin) Guy Nattiv and Jaime Ray Newman
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    Cuaron can't take all the Oscars... or can he? Roma certainly the strong favorite, at least telling by the DGI. However, your fave - Lukasz Zal - did take home the ASC prize, a certain indicator he'll also take home Oscar gold. If you'd asked me three months ago, I'd have said A Star is Born would sweep. Now, it's not so clear. Glenn Close is in that Peter O'Toole space where she's been nominated too many times. I'd say yes, but something inside says no. Marina de Tavira is the current favorite and Roma should take best pix and best director. Whether Cuaron will also take writer and photog would be an Oscar first. Imagine if he stood there on stage with FIVE Oscars in his arms! Impressive and Jedi material.
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    I have other Best Foreign list faves, Lee Chang-dong's BURNING (shortlisted but eliminated) and Zia Zhang-ke's ASH IS PSUREST WHITE (ditto, I believe). ROMA is an impressive film; it just didn't move or grab me that much. I can see it getting Best Foreign, but Best Picture? That's weird, isn't it? And then what gets Best Foreign? ROMA for that too? That makes it look like a foreign invasion. Russian manipulation? Trump undermining those Jewish commie Hollywood people? But yeah, of the present list I do personally prefer COLD WAR. It might win Best Cinematography? If he wins five Oscars, Cuaron will be the Mark Spitz or, to be more up to date, the Michael Phelps of movies. I am really in favor of spreading around the gold.

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    The New York Times Oscar predictions.

    The New York Times has predictions today. And they have comments about what it might mean if one of the others actually won. I have some comments in the next entry on the nominations and the Times predictions. I'm not listing all the "Carpetbagger's
    selections and lists. You can find the rest on the Times HERE. By the way: I hope is predictions for the three Best Short Oscar categories are wrong, and his earlier suggestion that this category "could and should be cut" from the ceremony is annoying.


    BEST PICTURE
    ✓ Roma
    A Star Is Born
    BlacKkKlansman
    Black Panther
    Bohemian Rhapsody
    The Favourite
    Green Book
    Vice

    BEST ACTRESS
    ✓ Glenn Close - The Wife
    Yalitza Aparicio - Roma
    Olivia Colman - The Favourite
    Lady Gaga - A Star Is Born
    Melissa McCarthy - Can You Ever Forgive Me

    BEST ACTOR
    ✓ Rami Malek - Bohemian Rhapsody
    Christian Bale - Vice
    Bradley Cooper - A Star Is Born
    Willem Dafoe At Eternity’s Gate
    Viggo Mortensen Green Book

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    ✓ Regina King If Beale Street Could Talk
    Amy Adams Vice
    Emma Stone The Favourite
    Marina de Tavira Roma
    Rachel Weisz The Favourite

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
    ✓Mahershala Ali - Green Book
    Adam Driver - BlacKkKlansman
    Sam Elliott - A Star Is Born
    Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me?
    Sam Rockwell - Vice

    BEST DIRECTOR
    ✓ Alfonso Cuarón - Roma
    Yorgos Lanthimos - The Favourite
    Spike Lee - BlacKkKlansman
    Adam McKay - Vice
    Pawel Pawlikowski - Cold War

    BEST DOCUMENTARY
    ✓ RBG
    Free Solo
    Hale County This Morning, This Evening
    Minding the Gap
    Of Fathers and Sons

    BEST SCREENPLAY
    ✓ The Favourite
    First Reformed
    Green BooK
    Roma
    Vice

    BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
    ✓ BlacKkKlansman
    A Star Is Born
    The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
    Can You Ever Forgive Me?
    If Beale Street Could Talk

    ANIMATED FEATURE
    ✓ Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
    Incredibles 2
    Isle of Dogs
    Mirai
    Ralph Breaks the internet

    BEST FOREIGN PICTURE
    ✓ Roma Mexico
    Capernaum Lebanon
    Cold War Poland
    Never Look Away Germany
    Shoplifters Japan

    BEST FILM EDITING
    ✓ Bohemian Rhapsody
    BlacKkKlansman
    The Favourite
    Green Book
    Vice

    CINEMATOGRAPHY
    ✓ Roma
    Cold War
    The Favourite
    Never Look Away
    A Star Is Born
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    My new comments on the Times predictions, and the nominations.

    ROMA is crazy, because isn't it in the Best Foreign list? So I'd give it to BLACKKKLANSMAN.

    Glenn Close would be nice to win, after seven nominations and no wins.

    Rami Malek would be touching too, a first generation son of immigrants. I heard a revealing interview with Terry Gross on NYP that showed how humble his origins were as an actor, and how little he even expected to get jobs at first. To get the Best Actor Oscar after only one other good role, and on a TV series, would be a bit much. But there is something riveting about him. And like a good first generation kid, he works really, really hard, and it pays off. His physical performance in the last scene of BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY is amazing. He is better than Freddie Mercury at Mercury's own moves!

    VICE is a leaden, boring movie and for it to win for anything would be depressing.

    A STAR IS BORN is overrated. It has magic in the early scenes, and Lady Gaga has great presence, Bradley Cooper charisma, but that doesn't make it a great or even good movie.

    THE FAVOURITE is another un-fave of mine: it is a tasteless, crude effort at historical parody without historical sense. It was good looking, just bad when it opened its mouth. Not as bad as VICE though but not deserving of all those nominations. In this respect ROMA stands out in a good way: it is at least a classy picture - though I personally prefer, in the foreign list, COLD WAR and BURNING.

    MAHERSHALA ALI - It's funny: GREEN BOOK is a very, very unsubtle movie, but he delivers a subtle performance. It seems more subtle because Viggo Mortensen's is so broad. The Academy tricked themselves there. Give it to somebody else, though, how about, since he just got one last year? I'd pick Richard E. Grant, a great character actor, but he's so damn happy just being nominated, he doesn't need to win. Sam Elliott does, and he's 74 - but does anybody really remember him in this movie? Remember my rule: don't give a prize to anything to do with VICE, please!

    BEST DIRECTOR - Anyone on this list would be an excellent choice, except Lanthimos or McKay. Hint: the homeboy is Spike, though.

    DOCUMENTARY - No, RBG is just a feel-good choice, I know she is a wonderful lady, but this is not a great documentary. FREE SOLO is an awesome documentary. HALE COUNTY and MIND THE GAP are just lucky to have been nominated. I missed the one about "radical Islamists" so can't comment on its worthiness, but it sounds a tad too depressing for the Oscar. I was impressed they gave it to CITIZEN FOUR in that year, though. That gave the Academy radical political cred for years.

    BEST SCREENPLAY - This is where the Academy starts really showing how tired they are. Isn't it funny how they keep coming up with the same titles over and over? You can see why of this list, they'd think THE FAVOURITE was the brilliantly written one. I'd give it to FIRST REFORMED, because however derivative here, at least Paul Schrader is a writer and a thinker who writes actual screenplays.

    ADAPTED SCREENPLAY and ANIMATED FEATURE I'm happy with, except my heart is with ISLE OF DOGS, but INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE is a really sweet movie.

    BEST FOREIGN: Look, voters who clicked for ROMA for both this and BEST PICTURE should have gotten an error message. Anyway, I am so happy NEVER LOOK AWAY made this list, which I had not expected. This is a good list, quality all the way. Even CAPERNAUM though corny is Labaki's best work yet, deeply relevant, and amazing in many ways. COLD WAR is superb. SHOPLIFTERS won at Cannes. But please, ROMA one best only. Or neither: Cuarón is already much celebrated.

    BEST FILM EDITING - Here it is again, the same titles, over and over.

    I don't have comments on all the categories.

    SHORTS. As I said above, I disagree with the Times's "expert's" Oscar Shorts predictions of "Skin" for the Live Action category and "Period. End of Sentence" for the Doc one instead of "Fauve" or "Marguerite" for Live Action and "A Night at the Garden" or "Black Sheep" for Doc and hope they are wrong. "Bao" apparently is the favorite for Animated Short; none of the nominations in Animated Short grabbed me this year so I hardly care. (But I still do care, and I'd like it to go to a NON-PIxar film.) I like the Shorts category because there's not a lot of ballyhoo about them (except when there is - "Night at the Garden" has gotten publicity. Deserved, I would say.
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    I would love the Academy voters to break with the DGA and give it to Spike. The man's worked so hard and NEVER been nominated, not once. Cuaron has the potential tonight to make history with his name in so many categories. Just that alone makes it interesting... camera, story, directing, producing, foreign language... head spin. He's been very busy. We shall see. Will Sam Elliot be a sympathy vote? Many like him. It's the very first award. Bet those guys get bored waiting for the whole thing to end when your award is first. Will there be a trend? If Apraricio wins for Best Actress, the rest will fall like dominoes at the end.
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    Glad you agree in liking Spike Lee right now and BLACKKKLANSMAN.

    I'm only not as heavily pushing for Spike because he already got a very big push by winning the Grand Prix at Cannes last year, which you could feel gave his career a new shot of energy, in itself, evident in the official Cannes press conference then.

    The Academy isn't really "following" the DGA of course but reflecting the same trend. However the "trend" seems like it's often lately largely promotion. That is, it's the result of paid advertising. If you opened another Best Foreign nominee on IMDb lately, you might get an ad for ROMA plastered at the top of it. ROMA will win because it's the most heavily advertised, and also because Spanish is an easier foreign language for Americans to deal with than Polish, Korean, or Japanese.

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    It's time for the days of an Oscars "sweep" to end, because it's monopolistic, because it takes away chances from other deserving people and films. Since they started having more Best Picture nominees, they accordingly need more different movies to win awards. That's why I am fed up with the same little list getting repeated for each category. A different prize outside the Best Picture list ought to get a prize for Best Editing or Best Cinematography. A Best Picture isn't Best in everything. It's simply a wonderful movie that excels in many areas and they all fit together nicely.

    These "technical" "Bests" should be opportunities to recognize other good films and workers in the industry.

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