Mulholland Drive (dont read this if you havent seen it!)

**Kent** · 09-10-2002, 04:23 AM

I saw this movie yesterday and I liked it alot! The movie is 2,5 hours but it felt like far less than that because it was so interesting.

It was somewhat clear and I could follow it pretty good until she found that blue box i think. I think that was when it started to get weird.

1. The girl that the movie excecutives wanted to have, was it Betty or Diane?
2. THe director, did he know Betty or was it Diane?

At first I thought that the murderattempt was ordered by the executives, cause they wanted that new girl, but then it turned out to be Diane, that order it.

It's kinda hard to ask questions about this film, since it gets so complitcated, but it's worth a try.

One other thing, Lynch did the same thing with the actors in his movie "Lost Highway", where he used the same actor (Patricia Arquette) for two roles, that you also mixed up.

I'm gonna see it one more time, this movie. Certain movies needs to be seen twice.

Anyway, lets hope we can discuss this one!

**Sola** · 09-11-2002, 03:20 PM

It's been some time since I saw it and it was confusing enough 10 minutes after the film!! All I know is that I thought I was following it until they got to that "blue perfomance" for lack of a better description. One theory was that the two women were the same. One arrived wide-eyed in Hollywood and eventually became the other. That would be the "cruel Hollywood" theory. What do you think happened. I need to see it again to be a better discussor.
Solang

**Kent** · 09-12-2002, 07:00 AM

Hmm...a rather interesting view actually. In fact, a very interesting view of it.
Never thought of it that way, but now when you say it, it sounds intelligent.

It sure could be that Lynch had a point with the Hollywood thing, that people fail, and it could very well be the transformation of Betty into Diane, caused by failure in Hollywood. Even Dians trade suits; a waiter.

Interesting thought.

Im gonna watch the movie again and then I'll get back to you on this subject. THere are of course more questions to answer too :)

**fuzzy_nolan** · 10-06-2002, 12:38 AM

I'm not going to shove my interpretation of Mulholland Drive down your throats because I'd rather everyone discover their own.

I will say however, that in an era of cinema where so many films require you to 'check your brain at the door' for pure sensory masturbation, Mulholland Drive was a breath of fresh air. And not only in terms of its cerebrality, but as a film in its own right.

One of my favourite films of recent years.

**fuzzy_nolan** · 10-06-2002, 01:41 AM

'I know there is a real world and a dream world and I shan't confuse them,' Judy Garland says in The Pirate.

It seems that David Lynch has no compunctions about integrating the two. Thus, in Mulholland Drive, there are aspects of the plot and motivations etc., that cannot readily be explained by the normal causal effects.

In a dream world, anything can happen. In Mulholland Drive it does.

By the way, if you are interested in having any number of interpretations on a platter, try this link: Mulholand Drive: IMDb User Comments Index

**Kent** · 10-06-2002, 07:05 AM

The best scene (except maybe when they two havew sex ;)) is most definetly when the go to the theater.

It's a totally brilliant scene. The actor that plays the man in the theater (he that speaks) is awesome!

It gives my such a cool feeling when i watch that scene. Such power. He talks really cool and has a cool voice, and i gotta say that spanish is cool. Its hard to explain exactly what i mean but anyway...its a terrific scene!

jrummer · 10-08-2002, 08:12 AM

After recommedations from a few people about this movie, we rented it. Sorry to say, it was not that good. David Lynch should bring it back a notch. The crazy plot concepts are getting old. Plenty of films out there can bend the rules and not totally confuse the audience into un-enjoying the film.

jacobic216 · 10-18-2002, 10:58 PM

I loved Mulholland Drive. I have all kinds of wild theories about the film but I'd also like to let people make their own. I'll just say this, I thought it was a better interpretation into the mind of a schitzophrenic delusionally ill person than A Beautiful Mind.

**tabuno** · 10-19-2002, 12:29 AM

jrummer's favorites seem to follow more along mainstream movies that are more concrete and situated in solid reality. Myself, on other hand, did find Mulholland Drive intriguing, confusing and requiring something of a twisted mind - I can't comment on it because I'd need to see it again and again before I could make any intelligent comment that anybody would understand. When I find the time.

jrummer · 10-19-2002, 05:47 AM

Please don't comment on what movies I like based on 15 movies. I love Happiness, Kids, Gummo, American Movie etc etc. I even liked twin peaks....i just dont like seeing the same thing over and over again.

jacobic216 · 10-19-2002, 02:00 PM

A good thinker movie is one that makes you think about it for days after you've seen it. Movies that make you think are designed to make you want to go back and see it again. Usual Suspects, Mulholland Drive, Sixth Sense and Memento are all examples of movies that leave you guessing even after the movie is over. I still find all of them to be ambiguous after seeing them a second time. Mulholland Drive is not even comprehendable unless you watch it a few times and develop some theories. I still don't know exactly what happened and I've seen it plenty of times.

**fuzzy_nolan** · 10-20-2002, 02:38 AM

There seems to be two categories of "thinker" movies, as Jacobic 216 put it. There the type where there just a twist at the end that explains the entire movie. And on the second viewing, all the clues are evidently geared towards that reading. I wouldn't really say these are "thinker" movies, because at the end of the movie the hand it was holding is totally revealed. There's not much thinking required.

But then there's the other sort, where any number of interpretations can be valid and multiple viewings are required to discover even one of them for yourself.

**tabuno** · 10-20-2002, 07:56 PM

Ok jrummer, I'll use your own words about the movies you like, "I love Happiness, Kids, Gummo, American Movie etc etc. " I rest my case. (I had a really crappy week, last week.)

jrummer · 10-21-2002, 08:19 AM

How are those movies plus so many others like them, not be "thinker" type movies? And who says there are 2 types of thinking movies? How on earth can any of you define a "thinker" movie? Each person has their own loose definition. I tend not to define movies, I just like them. Whether its Ace Ventura or Memento (which wasn't nearly as good as Following). This forum could be a lot better served if we just talked about the movie, why we liked it or disliked it (with embelleshments), and kept the judgements out of it. This is the exact reason why I never read reviews of movies, the Catch 22......If had listened to any of them, I could have missed a lot of gems along the way.

I just watched Blue Velvet again and realized how Lynch loves the close up burning flame or whatever.....it gets old. I guess that't how this whole thing got started. At the same time, I love Dune.....on every level.

**tabuno** · 10-21-2002, 08:18 PM

Anybody who can appreciate Dune can't be all bad. In fact there's a lot of potential at work here. But there were two versions of Dune, though, so the verdict could be considered still out depending on which version one refers to. There's William Hurt and there's Kyle Maclaughan (or however you spell his name from Twin Peaks).